Did You Know Jesus and His 12 Apostles were Heretics?

The 12 Apostles were called Heretics and believed in The Way called HERESY! Paul says in Acts 24:14 "But this I confess unto thee, that after the Way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:"  http://biblehub.com/acts/24-14.htm




Jesus and His 12 Apostles would not be considered "Christians" today. "Christians" today are defined by the Papacy as ONLY those who are accepted into the "fold" of Catholicism and believe in the Trinity. But Jesus and His 12 Apostles would be considered "Heretics" today by the Catholic churches standards of the Trinity, which is the , believing the Way called "Heresy". Jesus doctrines are called "The Way", also known as a "sect" or "cult" a "peculiar people" Deuteronomy 26:18.  "a peculiar treasure" Deuteronomy 14:2, Exodus 19:5.

"But ye are a chosen generation (144,000 - Original Adventist Doctrines setup in 1841, 1842, 1843 and 1844), a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into His marvelous light" (1 Pet 2:9).

The Disciples believed in the Way, which is Jesus and is called "HERESY" because Christ claimed to be the Son of God, which made Him to be begotten after God's own KIND. A God begets a God after His Own kind, like a horse begets a horse after his own kind. We are made in the IMAGE of God as well...fallen, not adopted or reconciled back to the Father and God of Christ through God's Son. Christ is the Son of God before the incarnation.

Acts 24:14 plainly describes what side of this debate the 12 apostles were on....the side of "HERESY". Trinitarians all call non-trinitarians heretics or blasphemers just like the Jews called Jesus a blasphemer and wanted to stone Christ for his saying his Father was God...the Jews "got it" way back then! See John 10:33 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.". John 5:18 "For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." John 19:7 "The Jewish leaders insisted, "We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God."

John 10:32
but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"

Philippians 2:6
Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

Leviticus 24:16
anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD is to be put to death. The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death.

John 10:24
The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, "How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly."

John 10:33 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."

Acts 24:14 "But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call HERESY, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:"

The WAY is called HERESY by the non-believers (Trinitarians/Unitarians/all those who don't believe in "The Way" which is called HERESY)

Acts 24:22
Then Felix, who was well acquainted with the Way, adjourned the proceedings. "When Lysias the commander comes," he said, "I will decide your case."

Acts 9:2
and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem.

Acts 28:22
But we want to hear what your views are, for we know that people everywhere are talking against this sect."

Acts 28:23
They arranged to meet Paul on a certain day, and came in even larger numbers to the place where he was staying. He witnessed to them from morning till evening, explaining about the kingdom of God, and from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets he tried to persuade them about Jesus.

2 Peter 2:2
Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the WAY of truth into disrepute.

John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the WAY, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by ME."

"As Christ was twice born, once in eternity, the only begotten of the Father, and again here in the flesh, thus uniting the divine with the human in that second birth, so we, who have been born once already in the flesh, are to have the second birth, being born again of the Spirit, in order that our experience may be the same, the human and the divine being joined in a life union." W.W. PRESCOTT Review and Herald, April 14, 1896 p. 232.

"He was born of the Holy Ghost. In other words, Jesus Christ was born again. He came from heaven, GOD's first- born, to the earth, and was born again, But all in Christ's work goes by opposites for us: he, the sinless one, was made to be sin, in order that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. He, the living one, the prince and author of life, died that we might live. He whose goings forth have been from the days of eternity, the first-born of GOD, was born again, in order that we might be born again."

"If Jesus Christ had never been born again, could you and I have ever been born again? No. But he was born again, from the world of righteousness into the world of sin; that we might be born again, from the world of sin into the world of righteousness. He was born again, and was made partaker of the human nature, that we might be born again, and so made partakers of the divine nature. He was born again, unto earth, unto sin, and unto man, that we might be born again unto heaven, unto righteousness, and unto God." Review and Herald, Aug. 1, 1899 (Lessons on Faith p. 154.)

Here are the verses for you to consider about the Bible stating plainly that there are TWO BEINGS, not three who are God:

1) "He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath BOTH the Father and the Son." 2 John 1:9

2) If I had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. As it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated BOTH me and my Father. John 15:24

3) Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them BOTH. Zechariah 6:13

4) "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." John 14:23Notice this verse only mentions two beings.

What is Satan's Last Day Theology? Find out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGbNtCruBZU

Does Jesus have a God and Father?

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ," Ephesians 1:3
"The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, " 2 Corinthians 11:31
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ," 1 Peter 1:3
"Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to MY Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY Father, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God. John 20:17
"And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." Luke 4:8
the head of Christ is God." 1 Corinthians 11:3 
"And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's." (KJV) 1 Corinthians 3:23
Galatians 3:29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
1 Corinthians 15:28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him (the God and Father of Jesus) who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. 
Jesus said in John 14:1 "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me."
1 Thessalonians 2:13 "For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

God and Jesus two separate people. God and Jesus are NOT the same person. You can't be your OWN SON! God beget a Son who was after His own kind, a God. God the Father was IMMORTAL which means He could NOT die. Christ was the ONLY unique being in all the universe who could DIE for us. Because only a God sacrifice would do. So because God the Father was immortal, only Christ could die for us. Both God and Jesus are of the same kind of being, like a horse begets a horse, a cow begets a cow, etc. Their Spirit is their Character, their WORDS (John 6:63). We can have their Spirit by asking Christ to come into our mind through His WORD. God sent His Son to give us His WORDS. Then we can become Godlike in character as well. Satan told Eve that if she ate the fruit she would become as GODS...knowing both good and evil. We are created in the IMAGE of God, or a copy of God. Our birthright place is with God and His Son - their Spirit/Words/Character replacing our carnal nature/character with their HOLY character/Spirit/Words found in the Ten Commandments and Bible verse promises...Claim Bible promises, that's how we get the Godlike character of Christ. Learn to speak the language of Heaven - Bible verses! Truth! Christ is the Truth...God sent His Son to speak truth to us. The least we can do is learn to live and speak that same truth!

"It may be objected, If the Father and the Son are two distinct beings, do you not, in worshipping the Son and calling him God, break the first commandment of the decalogue? "No; it is the Father's will 'That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father.' We cannot break the commandment and dishonor God by obeying him. The Fathers says of the Son, 'Let all the angels of God worship him.' Should angels refuse to worship the Son, they would rebel against the Father. Children inherit the name of their Father. The Son of God 'hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than' the angels. That name is the name of his Father. The Father says to the Son, 'Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever.' Heb.1. The Son is called 'The mighty God.' Isa. 9:6. And when he comes again to earth his waiting people will exclaim, 'This is our God.' Isa. 25:9. It is the will of the Father that we should thus honor the Son. In doing so we render supreme honor to the Father. If we dishonor the Son, we dishonor the Father; for he requires us to honor his son. "But though the Son is called God yet there is a 'God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ' 1Pet. 1:3. Though the Father says to the Son, 'Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever,' yet, that throne is given him of his Father; and because he loved righteousness and hated iniquity, he further says, 'Therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee.' Heb. 1:9. 'God hath made that same Jesus both Lord and Christ.' Acts. 2:36. The Son is 'the everlasting Father,' not of himself, nor of his Father, but of his children. His language is, 'I and the children which God hath given me.' Heb. 2:13." Review and Herald, June 1, 1869.

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE RENEWED UNTO REPENTANCE

Paul spoke of those who tasted but had no desire for Christ: "For it is impossible for those who were once ENLIGHTENED, and have TASTED of the heavenly Gift, and were madePARTAKERS of the Holy Ghost, And have TASTED the good Word of God, and the Powers of the world to come, If they shall FALL AWAYto renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put Him to an open shame." (Heb 6:4-6)

The above verses have been used by countless preachers to condemn hapless souls to an everlasting damnation. We have received letters from people who were literally driven insane due to the fear these hellfire and damnation sermons instilled, especially when the poor souls were led to believe they had committed the 'unpardonable' sin. But praise God! Those who had written told us of the great healing they received after reading publications (including ours) on (7)God's infinite grace and ultimate purpose for all mankind.

No doubt, things will not be pleasant for the ones who put Christ to an open shame, and rightly so, for it is a terrible thing do. And it is almost inconceivable to think that someone could fall away after they had been enlightened by the illumination of anointed revelation. The heavenly gift (the Holy Spirit) that they tasted but rejected, of course, is the Lord Jesus. We can see that He is the Spirit in Paul's second letter to the Corinthians: "Now the Lord is that Spirit..." (2 Cor 3:17). And Jesus Himself said He would send the promise of His Father upon us (Luke 24:49), speaking ofthe Holy Spirit.

The heavenly Gift these people reject is not the gifts of the Spirit, but the Gift Himself. They also count His Word as nothing, the very thing by which they were born.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it? And it is familiar in the sense of rebellious teens who count their mothers and fathers, and everything they have ever been taught, as nothing. They put their family name on open display, and by their actions declare that it is all worthless. They seem to have no thought or feeling that it brings shame to every member of the family, especially to the parents who had sacrificed their lives for them.

How can those who bring such shame to the ones who died, sacrificed everything for them, for them be renewed by a mere repentance? It is impossible! Much fire is in store for them before repentance comes. And how can those who bring such shame to Jesus be renewed by mere repentance? It is impossible! Is this to say that once a person has brought shame to the family or to the Lord that they can never be brought back into good standing and honor with either? Absolutely not! It is saying no such thing.

Repentance may eventually come; but that alone, without a change of heart, will not renew the relationship. They must first be broken, as was the prodigal son. Many bitter tears will be shed as they pass through the fires they ignite in their own lives. Poverty of their souls will purge them from self-centeredness, causing them to truly desire that which they had once disdained -- their first estate.

Many of our modern Bible translators rendered the chains that hold such people under darkness as everlasting and the fire of which they await as eternal. Sounds fairly final, doesn't it? But this is not close to being the end of the matter. The way these two words were handled are merely a part of the veil that covers men's minds. God uses man's way of thinking to conceal His priceless truths until the time of unveiling, which is at hand.

Everlasting chains under darkness are chains that cannot be broken. They endure, they hold firmly, they last until the time of judgment. These chains are the very darkness men and women give themselves to in place of the light of Jesus Christ. This is not someone who hates the flesh and its lusts, but give themselves to it. Such people willingly trade the power of the ages for the power of their own carnal might. It is rebellion; it is an insurrection against the King. And that to which they give themselves, the carnal chains of darkness, will hold them in that realm until they are judged. Such people will continue in their own dark ministries. They will have certain powers over followers of men. They will build their kingdoms in the "name" of Christ; yet they will all fall in the presence of the One they had disallowed.

Once such contempt for the One who birthed them and died for them is broadcast in the world, and once they have built a tower and made a name for themselves (Gen 11:4) -- it is not as it was in the beginning when salvation was brought about through repentance (Acts 3:19, 11:18, 2 Cor 7:10, etc). All a person had to do to be saved was to repent (turn from the world and its corruption), believe in the heart God raised Jesus from the dead, and confess Jesus is his/her Lord. But after all the precious things of Christ are tasted, even the powers of the age to come, and they are counted as worthless, it is a different story.

In the beginning when the Holy Spirit was drawing us to Jesus, it was so easy. But when we wipe our feet on His precious garments, we cannot expect repentance to be the open door back to the rich fellowship we so openly rejected. Ah, but there is a way our loving Father has provided that none shall be lost. It is called FIRE!

Where repentance is no longer viable -- fire is. If a person who loved the world more than the riches of Christ, and all he had to do was to "repent" in order to return to the fold of fellowship and communion with the Lord, what a mockery it would be. People would use it like a revolving door in a department store. They would be in the world one day and in Christ the next. They would use each to their own design and purpose. There would be a continual vacillating between the Spirit and the flesh. Victory would never be known in their lives. Oh, but the purging fires of God will consume the adversaries, every adverse particle to Christ, and restoration can then be known.

Those fires of indignation may come inwardly in the form of awful depression, fear, anguish, or a number of other tormenting things. They can also come outwardly as the result of sowing seeds to the wind and reaping the whirlwind. The universal law of sowing and reaping may be disavowed, but they cannot be avoided. There will be a day of reaping of every seed sown, whether good or bad. When the reaping is the whirlwind, and when it is time for God to draw a soul back into Himself, he will be swept away in judgment by the very things for which they lived. This is a part of the restoration process.

Let us lend our attention to another area of scripture that has been used to condemn poor souls to an everlasting damnation:

"For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truththere remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries." (Heb 10:26-27).

As it was with repentance, so it is with the sacrifice -- there is no more. Jesus died ONCE for ALL (Heb 10:10). It is wayward to think that after a person willfully sins, he can nail Jesus to cross again and shed more blood to atone his sin. Our Father will never again subject His beloved Son to the shame of that cross.

This, however, in no way suggests the person is forever cut off from God. Although the sacrifice is history for that individual, and repentance is also gone, the refining Fire of God is a present reality. The willful sinner will reel with God’s fiery indignation of heated love. The flames of judgment will devour every wicked way, and put to rest any desire that would rise in open rebellion. There will be great loss, this is sure, but the man will be brought back as his soul is salted with fire, as Jesus promised would happen to everyone (Mark 9:49). The great loss, of course, would be spiritual loss; such as the Pharisees who were guilty of blaspheming against the Holy Spirit: "Because of this I say to you, all sin and evil speaking shall be forgiven to men, but the evil speaking of the Spirit shall not be forgiven to men. And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it shall be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming." (Mat. 12:31-32, Young's Literal). One of their great losses was being disqualified from being a part of the ruling factor in the Kingdom of God in the age to come which was after Jesus was crucified, resurrected, and ascended. That was the beginning of the Kingdom with His many membered body; but since the rulers blasphemed against the Holy Spirit, they were not forgiven and delivered from their rebellion, so their great loss was to miss out on such a wonderful thing as living in Christ and ruling with Him. And Paul mentioned something that I believe would be a great loss; namely, to be found spiritually naked: "If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked." (2 Cor. 5:3).

Do you want to be a peculiar person? If so, never disallow the living Stone. You may think such a thing is impossible; but there are ample numbers, multitudes for that matter, who confess Jesus as their Lord, while disallowing the living Stone in their lives. And they never give it a second thought that they have done so. They profess His name, but their profession is more in the worldthan in the Kingdom of God. They work the works of man and not the works of Christ. Paul said this about them: "They profess that they know God; but in works they deny Him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate" (Titus 1:16). This is a strong indictment against people who profess Jesus, but in their works they deny Him by doing their own religious thing.

However, this is not the make up of those who are peculiar. Praise God, for "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood..." (1 Pet 2:5)."...Ye are a chosen generation, a (8)royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of Him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light" (1 Pet 2:9).

You see, we can never work hard enough or long enough in our natural might to show forth the wonders of God; for not only is it impossible for flesh and blood to inherit the Kingdom of God, it is impossible for either to do the works of the Kingdom.

We ourselves are a spiritual work. We are His handiwork who are called to good works. We are lively stones having been made alive by Him who is life. A spiritual house is not a 'church building', it is a house made up of you and me. The priesthood does not consist of men who are set in positions by other men. This priesthood is royal, it is kingly, it is ordained by the King Himself. It is not after the order of Aaron or Levi who administer the dos and don'ts, and who are always subject to blemishes themselves. The royal priesthood is after the order of Melchisedec who has no beginning or ending, and who by nature fulfills the law of God. The people of this generation are the elect. They make up a holy nation, a race that is dreadfully majestic. They are sacred, blameless and consecrated unto God.

There are some, however, who question where they are in Christ. We have heard them say that they fear they will miss the boat, that with all their shortcomings they don't have what it takes to be a son of God. Their fear of not being manifested with the rest of the body keeps them searching, ever searching for the latest and greatest revelation and teaching. This is well and good; for I too want that which is great from God, and I desire the most recent, up-to-date, anointed doctrines the Spirit is pouring into His people. Although this can be a very real part of hearing the voice of our Lord, it can border on natural zeal that makes God's living of non effect.

But this is not the case with many. Even so, it does not stop them from worrying whether they are spiritual enough, or even smart enough, to be numbered among the sons of God. The fact is, most of them are overly concerned, which is their greatest handicap. Not only are they hearing and obeying the voice of the Lord, they are also keeping His covenant.

They may not always hear; but when they do, their obedience is unquestionable. And they are to be commended for keeping His covenant. This covenant, of course, is not the law of Moses. The old covenant (testament) was instituted by God and it was between Himself and Abram. It was initiated when He passed through the carcasses that were cut in half by Abram. The old covenant was only a type of the New Covenant, which is now between Jesus and His Peculiar Treasure.

When the shed blood of Jesus is drank, when His torn flesh is eaten, and when it is esteemed as good -- then I will declare with all confidence -- you are keeping His covenant. Therefore, whether you can quote one scripture, whether you can teach or preach two minutes worth of Kingdom truth, or whether you have any fellowship with like minded saints -- if you are hearing and obeying,and you are keeping His covenant -- you are peculiar. You qualify, which makes you a rare treasure of high value which was purchased by a great price. And I will also say -- you will manifest great valor when the covering is removed! You are a valued portion of the unblemished pearl of great price.

Furthermore, this unblemished pearl was unearthed and called out of darkness and into His marvelous light. The whole of it is a special possession which is over and above all else. It is a purchased acquisition of high value. And there is more. This rare gem, this nation, this priesthood, this people -- will show forth the praises of Him.

The word praises in this verse is more than lifting hands and voices upon high. It comes from the Greek word arete and according to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, it carries the thought of"manliness (valor), i.e. excellence". In all other places of the book of the New Testament where this word is used, it is translated virtue.

Although spiritual praise is a high and holy thing, and it is the heartbeat of our souls, this is not the subject in this case. This generation, the holy nation of God has been made ready to manifest the valor of their Lord in unprecedented excellence. Those of the royal priesthood, the members of this kingdom of priests, are waiting to be unveiled so they can declare their perfections in Christ. They are anxious to 'flex their muscles' and show forth their Manliness. This desire to display themselves is not due to vanity, but so others may know Jesus. Moreover, such manliness does not speak of infants, babes, adolescents, but His bride - that has MADE herself Ready-- it speaks clearly of the manifestation of the Sons of God. It is the unveiling of the Bride of Christ, the exhibition, if your please, of His Peculiar People!


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"True faith rests on the Promises contained in the Word of God, and those only who obey (live) that Word can claim its glorious Promises.Early Writings, p. 72.2

The GOSPEL: Jesus Christ is truly and literally the Son of the Living God. Twice born - just as we must be twice born. 

“Man may become a partaker of the divine nature; not a soul lives who may not summon the aid of Heaven in temptation and trial. Christ came to reveal the SOURCE of his power, that man might never rely on his unaided human capabilities.” (Ellen G. White, Review & Herald 18th February 1890, ‘How to meet a controverted point of doctrine’)

“It is through the Spirit that Christ dwells in us; and the Spirit ofGod, received into the heart by faith, is the beginning of the life eternal.” Desire of Ages, page 388. 

The promise is, if we suffer with Christ we shall also reign with him. The sufferings of the human race while under the curse, will not raise them to fellow-heirship with Jesus on his throne. This is the lot of mortals in this world. The heir of God, then, is required to suffer still more. Yes, his whole body is to be a living sacrifice unto God. He is to sacrifice his ease, his pleasure, his comfort, his convenience, his will, and his own selfish wishes, for Christ’s cause, or never reign with him on his throne.”

He came from heaven, GOD's first-born of Heaven, to the earth, and was born again:

If Jesus Christ had never been born again, could you and I have ever been born again? No.

But he was born again, from the world of righteousness into the world of sin; that we might be born again, from the world of sin into the world of righteousness. 

He was born again, and was made partaker of the human nature, that we might be born again, and so made partakers of the divine nature. He was born again, unto earth, unto sin, and unto man, that we might be born again unto heaven, unto righteousness, and unto God.

All in Christ's work goes by opposites for us: he, the sinless one, was made to be sin, in order that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

He, the living one, the prince and author of life, died that we might live. 

He whose goings forth have been from the days of eternity, the first-born of GOD, was born again, in order that we might be born again.

"As Christ was twice born, once in eternity, the only begotten of the Father, and again here in the flesh, thus uniting the divine with the human in that second birth, so we, who have been born once already in the flesh, are to have the second birth, being born again of the Spirit, in order that our experience may be the same, the human and the divine being joined in a life union." W.W. PRESCOTT Review and Herald, April 14, 1896 p. 232.

"He was born of the Holy Ghost. In other words, Jesus Christ was born again. He came from heaven, GOD's first- born, to the earth, and was born again, But all in Christ's work goes by opposites for us: he, the sinless one, was made to be sin, in order that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. He, the living one, the prince and author of life, died that we might live. He whose goings forth have been from the days of eternity, the first-born of GOD, was born again, in order that we might be born again."

"If Jesus Christ had never been born again, could you and I have ever been born again? No. But he was born again, from the world of righteousness into the world of sin; that we might be born again, from the world of sin into the world of righteousness. He was born again, and was made partaker of the human nature, that we might be born again, and so made partakers of the divine nature. He was born again, unto earth, unto sin, and unto man, that we might be born again unto heaven, unto righteousness, and unto God." Review and Herald, Aug. 1, 1899 (Lessons on Faith p. 154.)

Here are the verses for you to consider about the Bible stating plainly that there are TWO BEINGS, not three who are God:

1) "He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath BOTH the Father and the Son." 2 John 1:9

2) If I had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. As it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated BOTH me and my Father. John 15:24

3) Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them BOTH. Zechariah 6:13

4) "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my wordsand my Father will love him, andwe will come unto him, and make our abode with him." John 14:23 Notice this verse only mentions two beings.

What is Satan's Last Day Theology? Find out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGbNtCruBZU

Does Jesus have a God and Father?

  • "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ," Ephesians 1:3
  • "The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, " 2 Corinthians 11:31
  • "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ," 1 Peter 1:3
  • "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to MY Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY Father, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your GodJohn 20:17
  • "And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." Luke 4:8
  • the head of Christ is God." 1 Corinthians 11:3 
  • "And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's." (KJV) 1 Corinthians 3:23
  • Galatians 3:29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
  • 1 Corinthians 15:28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him (the God and Father of Jesus) who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. 
  • Jesus said in John 14:1 "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me."
  • 1 Thessalonians 2:13 "For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.


  • The King of the universe summoned the heavenly hosts before Him, that in their presence He might set forth the true position of His Son, and show the relation He sustained to all created beings. The Son of God shared the Father's throne, and the glory of the eternal, self-existent One encircled both.

    "It may be objected, If the Father and the Son are two distinct beings, do you not, in worshipping the Son and calling him God, break the first commandment of the decalogue? "No; it is the Father's will 'That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father.' We cannot break the commandment and dishonor God by obeying him. The Fathers says of the Son, 'Let all the angels of God worship him.' Should angels refuse to worship the Son, they would rebel against the Father. Children inherit the name of their Father. The Son of God 'hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than' the angels. That name is the name of his Father. The Father says to the Son, 'Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever.' Heb.1. The Son is called 'The mighty God.' Isa. 9:6. And when he comes again to earth his waiting people will exclaim, 'This is our God.' Isa. 25:9. It is the will of the Father that we should thus honor the Son. In doing so we render supreme honor to the Father. If we dishonor the Son, we dishonor the Father; for he requires us to honor his son. "But though the Son is called God yet there is a 'God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ' 1Pet. 1:3. Though the Father says to the Son, 'Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever,' yet, that throne is given him of his Father; and because he loved righteousness and hated iniquity, he further says, 'Therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee.' Heb. 1:9. 'God hath made that same Jesus both Lord and Christ.' Acts. 2:36. The Son is 'the everlasting Father,' not of himself, nor of his Father, but of his children. His language is, 'I and the children which God hath given me.' Heb. 2:13." Review and Herald, June 1, 1869.

    “With us humans, it is our pneuma, our breath, as we force it across our vocal cords causing them to vibrate and produce the sounds that carry our thoughts out of our mouths and across the air to the ears of those we want to communicate with. This is the same breath that gives us life. Could there be a parallel to this with God whose ruach carries His words?”

    When one person acts as the agent for another person it is said that the agent is speaking for that person. The agent is saying what that person wants him to say, he is representative of that person. Moses was YaHavah’s first agent, representative, or prophet. Adam heard the voice of YaHavah but was not a prophet of YaHavah. He was tempted and disobeyed. Adam knew YaHavah was present and could hear him but did not see him. No one has physically seen YaHavah. The Bible says YaHavah is on his throne in heaven yet his presence is known throughout his creation. Does YaHavah have vocal chords with which to speak his thoughts? The Bible makes it clear that he does not need physical vocal chords with which to speak. YaHavah, by his Spirit (ruach in Hebrew and pneuma in Greek) makes his thoughts known to those who love him enough to hear him. The first five books of the Bible are record of the thoughts of YaHavah given to Moses to speak. He used the voices of all of his prophets to make his voice heard by those who were not listening to him. Those would-be prophets who said they heard the voice of YaHavah were and are condemned. He uses the voices of messenger angels to speak his thoughts and causes the angels to have certain identifying apparel to show that they are from him. Abraham was certain that one of the three who visited him was YaHavah Elohim, but since the Bible says no one has seen the face of YaHavah we know it was a special messenger angel. Jesus made the statement many times that he spoke and did what his Father gave him to speak and do. Jesus was YaHavah with us because he represented his Father to the world. His voice was YaHavah’s voice by the power and presence of YaHavah’s Spirit that we know he had because of the descending dove and the confirming voice of YaHavah from heaven that fulfilled Isaiah 11:1-5 and Daniel 9:24 (Holy one). All true believing Christians who truly love YaHavah and listen to him are his representatives. They speak his true words from their heart because they are also anointed in the seven spirits of Isaiah 11:1-2 because Jesus was glorified in heaven when he ascended to receive his Father’s Kingdom (Rev. 5:6) Many are called but few are chosen. Too many hearts have their own personal agenda. The Trinity and pretribulation rapture teachings have robbed believers of the most important Bible teachings for their salvation. Those who believe those lies are not anointed in the Spirit as they are led to think, they do not hear YaHavah. I pray every day for hearts and minds to be opened to YaHavah’s love and wisdom. 
     

    1 Cor 8:6 plainly states who God is. God, the Father and God of Christ. Ephesians 1:3

    Christ, the Word, the only begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father,--one in nature, in character, in purpose,--the only being that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God. "His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of peace" (Isaiah 9:6). His "goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting" (Micah 5:2).
    He came from heaven, GOD's first-born, to the earth, and was born again:
    "The promise that Jesus would come as our Savior had been made in the Garden of Eden. When Adam and Eve first heard it, they expected a quick fulfillment. So when they held their firstborn son in their arms, they both hoped he would be the Redeemer. But that was not to be. Thousands of years later, as God’s appointed time came,Jesus left heaven to be born in Bethlehem." The Desire of Ages, 31, 32., A Call to Stand Apart, p. 14.1

    Colossians 1:15 "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation." 

    Colossians 1:15-21 “And He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities — all things have been created by Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the first-born from the dead; so that He Himself might come to have first place in everything. For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and through Him (God's Son JESUS) to reconcile all things to Himself (God the Father 1 Cor 8:6), having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.”

    "For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have "believed" that I came out from God." 

    And see John 17:8: "For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

    "The Father was greater than the Son in that he was first." (James White, January 4, 1881,Review & Herald; found in EGW Review and Herald Articles, vol. 1, page 244)

    "He came not to our world to give the obedience of a lesser God to a greater, but as a man to obey God’s Holy Law, and in this way he is our example." Selected Messages Book 3, p. 140.1


    “...and as the son of God, he would be excluded also, for he had God for his Father, and did, at some point in the eternity of the past, have beginning of days. So that if we use Paul’s language in an absolute sense, it would be impossible to find but one being in the universe, and that is God the Father, who is without father, or mother, or descent, or beginning of days, or end of life.” {Review and Herald Sept. 7, 1869}.

    God's firstborn ONLY begotten Son was the firstborn of Heaven is a "spitting image of His Father". A "chip off the 'ole block". Christ came to the world to reveal the character = thoughts and feelings of the Father. "The lessons of temperance, self-denial, and self-control are to be taught to children even from babyhood." Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 562

    The unity that exists between Christ and His disciples does not destroy the personality of either. They are one in purpose, in mind, in character, but not in personIt is thus that God and Christ are one." 8T, p. 269.

    THEY ARE ONE IN WORDS! IN THOUGHT. CHARACTER. THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS! THE THOUGHTS OF GOD WERE GIVEN AS WORDS TO US THROUGH HIS SON! WE GET GOD'S WORDS THROUGH CHRIST, WHO SPOKE THEM INTO THE BIBLE. THESE WORDS ARE ALIVE FOR US TO USE! MEMORIZE THEM! SAY THEM! SING THEM! PRAY THEM OVER YOURSELF, FAMILY, FRIENDS AND ENEMIES! CLAIM JER 33:3 and ZACH 3:4, JUDE 1:24...find Bible verse promises specific to your situation and claim them for yourself as God's promise to you! THIS IS HOW GOD AND HIS SON ARE ONE AND YOU CAN BE ONE WITH GOD JUST LIKE THIS! BY SPEAKING HIS WORDS OUT TO OTHERS. THEY ARE POWERFUL WORDS! BELIEVE AND CLAIM GOD'S WORD FOUND IN THE BIBLE AS YOUR VERY OWN TICKET TO HEAVEN! Like John 6:37! I love Luke 21:15 because God has promised in James 3:2 that if we bridle our tongue, we will be PERFECT, able to keep our whole body in check! YES! PERFECT! HOLY! WHICH SIMPLY MEANS TO BE IN CONSTANT AGREEMENT WITH GOD. IN CONSTANT AGREEMENT WITH THE MIND OF GOD WHICH IS THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. JESUS IS THE LAW IN OUR MIND. JESUS ENABLES US TO WANT TO OBEY THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. IF YOU HAVE JESUS YOU HAVE THE LAW OF GOD IN YOU! CONSTRAINING YOUR THOUGHTS, WORDS AND ACTIONS TO CONFORM TO THE LAW OF GOD!

    "The dedication of the firstborn had its origin in earliest times. God had promised to give the Firstborn of heavento save the sinner." Ellen White From Heaven With Love, p. 29.3

    "The fallen denominational churches are Babylon. Babylon has been fostering poisonous doctrines, the wine of error. This wine of error is made up of false doctrinessuch as the natural immortality of the soul, the eternal torment of the wicked, the denial of the pre-existence of Christ prior to his birth in Bethlehem, and advocating and exalting the first day of the week above God’s holy, sanctified day. These and kindred errors are presented to the world by the various, churches, and thus the Scriptures are fulfilled that say, ‘For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.’ It is a wrath which is created by false doctrines, and when kings and presidents drink this wine of the wrath of her fornication, they are stirred with anger against those who will not come into harmony with the false and Satanic heresies which exalt the false Sabbath, and lead men to trample under foot God’s memorial." Evangelism, p. 365.1RH September 12, 1893, par. 20

    "The “mystery of iniquity” began to work in the church in Paul’s day. It finally crowded out the simplicity of the gospel, and corrupted the doctrine of Christ, and the church went into the wilderness. Martin Luther, and other reformers, arose in the strength of God, and with the Word and Spirit, made mighty strides in the Reformation. The greatest fault we can find in the Reformation is, the Reformers stopped reforming. Had they gone on, and onward, till they had left the last vestige of Papacy behind, such as natural immortality, sprinkling, the trinity, and Sunday- keeping, the church would now be free from her unscriptural errors." (James White, February 7, 1856, Review & Herald, vol. 7, no. 19, page 148, par. 26)

    In speaking of His pre-existence, Christ carries the mind back through dateless ages. He assures us that there never was a time when He was not in close fellowship with the eternal God. He to whose voice the Jews were then listening had been with God as one brought up with Him." (Signs of the Times, Aug. 29, 1900).
    • 1904 “To Christ had been given an exalted position. He has been made equal with the Father” (Testimonies vol. 8, p. 268)

    Commenting on John 10:30 in 1893:

    The Jews had never before heard such words from human lips, and a convicting influence attended them; for it seemed that divinity flashed through humanity as Jesus said, “I and my Father are one.” The words of Christ were full of deep meaning as he put forth the claim that he and the Father were of one substance (He came OUT of His Father = begotten/firstborn of all creation), possessing the same attributes (personality/nature/character = thoughts and feelings).” (Signs of the Times, Nov. 27, 1893).





    The three branches of the Catholic Church that grew out of the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, are the Eastern orthodox Greek Catholic Church, The Roman Catholic Church, and Protestant Catholic Churches. The one identifying doctrine that makes all of these Catholic, is the mystery of the trinity doctrine and trinity baptism. This is the cult captivity of millions. The difference between the true Church that began at Jerusalem and the Catholic Nico-Latins is the Oneness Monarchian Message.

    Few realize that the trinity doctrine that was adopted at the Council of Nicaea and thereafter molded into several Creeds (click creeds to go read), descends from Mystery Babylon via Greek philosophy in Plato's theories, and from Jewish Gnosticism, not from the Bible. Yet the Catholics all teach, that if a person does not believe in the trinity doctrine of Mystery Babylon, that person can not be saved. According to them, you and I can not be saved unless we believe Greek philosophy and Jewish Gnosticism that has reinterpreted God different from how God identified himself. This is wrong. Jesus did not ordain philosophers or Gnostic mystics, he ordained Apostles to be the authorities of Church doctrine. One great difference between the Arians, the Trinity-arians, Greek Plato philosophy, Mystery Babylon, and the true Apostolic Christians, is the Oneness Monarchian Message.

    All Pagan religions from the time of Babylon, have adopted in one form or another a trinity doctrine or a triad or trinity of gods. In Babylon it was Nimrod, Semiramas, and Tammuz; In Egypt it was Osiris, Isis, and Horus; within Israel pagan gnosticism it was Kether, Hokhmah, and Binah; In Plato's philosophy it was the Unknown Father, Nous/Logos, and the world soul. But in Old Testament Judaism there was only One God, a numerical ONE. The difference between paganism and God's people has always been the Oneness Monarchian Message reinforced by the First Commandment that prohibits any theory of a plurality.

    In our study, we will use a few verses to give a flavor of the One God message, and then give a lot of quotes concerning the trinity message. The true Apostolic Church rejects all the decrees and creeds of the Councils. For this reason we reject the trinity doctrine because it is not in the Bible but in the Creeds of the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. Our Creed of One God is plainly in the Bible, the Oneness Message.

    What God Says About His Oneness

    EXO 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

    ISA 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

    ISA 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

    ISA 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.

    ISA 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

    REV 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
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