Modern SDA Conference clasps hands with the Papacy

"It is a backsliding church that lessens 
the distance between itself and the Papacy." 
ST vol 3, 99


"Beach's encounter with the Roman Pontiff came as a  member
 of the Christian World Communions, and following a special
 luncheon at the Vatican." Review Nov. 8, 2001 [Note:  The 
Seventh-day Adventist church is the member, not Beach 
individually.  Beach was representing the Adventist church.]

General conference representative Bert B. Beach, was sent as a representative of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, the "world church," to meet with the pope.  Instead of preaching the three angels' messages around the world, the conference chooses to be partners with the man of sin. 

Our duty friend, is to follow the Lord and warn the world of the coming crisis.

"When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near."  --5T 451 (1885) 

An article appeared in the Review boasting of Beach's accomplishments:www.adventistreview.org/pdf/2001/1545-2001.pdf

The leaders of the SDA conference seek ecumenical approval, instead of standing for the truth. They are not willing to be labeled "peculiar" by the world, but rather seek to fit in with Babylon.  In the end they will be rejected by God.

The laity are asleep while the conference is hijacked by apostate, non-Adventist leaders.

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THURSDAY, DECEMBER 2, 2010

WCC Head Rev. Tveit to Meet with Pope on Dec 4; Hopes Papal Meeting Will Advance Christian Unity

The general secretary of the World Council of Churches (WCC), the Rev. Olav Fykse Tveit, says he hopes his upcoming audience in Rome with Pope Benedict XVI will advance Christian unity, the Ecumenical News International website reports today (December 2, 2010).

"It is important that we speak honestly in this meeting about the challenges we have," Tveit said of the December 4, 2010 meeting at the Vatican.

It will be Tveit's first meeting with Pope Benedict since the Norwegian Lutheran theologian took up his WCC post last January.

Most observers believe that the Vatican sees relations with the Eastern Orthodox churches as having a higher priority than contacts with Protestants.
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Adventists and Papacy Sign Pact

“Adventist Church Cannot be Treated as a Sect,”    Warsaw, Poland ... [ANN Feb 15, 2000]

The Seventh-day Adventist Church cannot be treated either as a ‘new religious movement,’ or as a sect,” declares a joint statement drawn by the Roman Catholic Church and the Adventist Church in Poland.

Recognizing each other’s autonomy and independence, the document was issued following 15 years of dialogue aimed at better understanding of the teachings and practice of the Catholic and the Adventist Churches, as well as improving relations without compromising each other’s identity.

The document cites the fact that “relations between Catholics and Adventists have not been best in the past.” The statement was signed by representatives of the Churches, including Pastor Wladyslaw Polok, president of the Adventist Church in Poland, and Archbishop Alfons Nossol, chairman of the Polish Episcopate’s Commission for Ecumenical Affairs.

With regret we recognize cases when the different religious and civic circles have denied the ecclesiastical status of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, even refering to it as a ‘sect.’ Such an approach is unacceptable and, we believe, it is highly detrimental for the mutual relations,” the document states.

This document affirms religious liberty. We are regarding it as an important development not only for our Church in Poland. Religious minorities are too often regarded as less than what they are,” said Pastor Polok.

The statement recognizes that though the Churches can refer to similarities, they also see difference between each other’s “doctrine, practice and church policies.” However, both sides affirm a need to cultivate respect for each other and learn to understand each other. The dialogue was “conducted on the basis of partnership, care to uphold a full identity of both sides, as well as their autonomy and independence, in the spirit of mutual respect and Christian love, and in recognition of the ideals of tolerance and religious freedom.”

This is an important turn of events for our Church,” says Prof. Zachariasz Lyko, who for many years was responsible for the Polish Adventist Church’s public affairs. “This development is not a result of criticism, public attacks or confrontation, but Christian kindness toward each other and respect for dignity of a human person.”

Many of us can recall how we have been labeled with different names. We have been misunderstood and often ridiculed. As for us, we wanted to sit down together and recognize that Christian love requires a different kind of relation in the society we are a part of. As Seventh-day Adventists we seek to take a positive approach to other faiths. We have stated this publicly and this document affirms our attiutude [sic],” he added.

The document does not deal with doctrinal and theological issues. During the years of meetings, both sides presented their theological views and doctrinal positions in the interest of better understanding between both confessions. “Our Church recognizes that such dialogue cannot be a dialogue of compromise, but one of cooperative spirit and common understanding,” Lyko explained. “We are doing nothing different except what the early pioneers of our Church supported and advocated. It is always better to engage in a respectful conversation than in a confrontation that often prevents achieving desired changes,” he said.

Lyko commented that “as a Church, our side was not interested in compromising any of our fundamental beliefs.

Over the years, however, as the exchange of information between us took place, we noted many confessional similarities but also differences.The Catholic side recognizes in the document the Christocentric character of our beliefs, and especially our belief in the Trinity, as well as ecclesiological identity of the Church, a status affirmed by an act of the Polish Parliament. On our part, we spoke of a need to change attitudes toward our denomination and recognized the openness of the Catholic Church, especially in recent times, toward the Bible,” Lyko explained.

 

How can the Adventist church identify the papacy as the beast if it is partners with them?  The conference is not spreading the three angel's messages to the world, as they would rather follow the papacy over their duty to God.

THE POPE INVITES CLOSE FRIENDS TO ASSISI
General Conference of SDA's on short list to meet pope 
 

The following news release comes to us courtesy of Domus Enterprises, which calls itself "an international news organization, staffed by lay Catholic journalists, dedicated to providing accurate world news, written from a distinctly Catholic perspective."

VATICAN, Jan 17, 2002 (CWNews.com)- The Italian daily newspaper Avvenire has published a list of the religious leaders expected to participate in the January 24 inter-religious observance at Assisi.

The Vatican has not yet released an official list of the participants, explaining that the list will not be considered complete until all those invited have responded. An estimated 300 people are expected to be involved, representing 44 different religious bodies.

Avvenire reported that 33 cardinals are expected, led by the Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Angelo Sodano; the prefect of the Congregation for Bishops, Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re; the president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, Cardinal Francois-Xavier Nguyen Van Thuan; the president of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity, Cardinal Walter Kasper; and Cardinal Etchegaray, who organized the original inter-religious ceremony in Assisi in 1986. Also present will be representatives of the Episcopal conferences of Algeria, Angola, the Philippines, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria. Rwanda, and Sudan-- countries where inter-religious dialogue is particularly important.

The Orthodox churches of the world will send 11 patriarchs to Assisi, led by the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople. But no representative of the Moscow patriarchate is expected. About 50 Islamic leaders will attend, coming from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, the Philippines, and Jordan. And Jewish rabbis will come from Jerusalem, France, and the United States-- along with Elio Toaff, the former chief rabbi of Rome. Protestant bodies will be represented by Konrad Kaiser, the secretary-general of the World council of Churches; Anglican Bishop Richard Garrard of Rome; Setri Nyomi of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches; George Freeman of the World Methodist Council; Cecil Robeck of the Pentecostal church; Alvin Jackson of the Disciples of Christ; Theodor Angelou of the European Baptist Federation and Bert Beach of the Seventh-Day Adventists.

The Vatican also expects representatives of Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, and traditional African faiths. The Italian government will be represented in Assisi by President Carlo Azeglio Ciampi and Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi.

All these participants are expected to be aboard a specially chartered train that will leave Rome for Assisi on the morning of January 24, returning that evening.

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Ecumenical Gatherings

(The following report came from the Adventist News Network of March 7, 2000.)

The “Meeting of U.S. Church Leaders,” an annual gathering of heads of Christian churches from around the nation, has elected Seventh-day Adventist Dr. Bert B. Beach as the vice chair of the group’s steering committee. More than 30 church leaders participated in the February 23-25 meetings, including leaders from the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (USA), the United Church of Christ and the American Baptist Churches in the USA.

“This ongoing appointment is an indication of the growing esteem in which the Seventh-day Adventist Church is held by many of the titular heads of the churches in the United States,” says Beach, a past director of the Church’s Public Affairs and Religious Liberty Department.

Beach, who has represented the Adventist Church at the meetings for the last 15 years, sees the annual gatherings as an invaluable way of connecting with national church leaders in an environment of informal fellowship.

“We pray together, enjoy devotional meetings, and form friendships,” says Beach, who adds that no substantive decisions are made at the annual meetings. “It’s simply an opportunity to meet, consult, and recharge; to put away hostilities and worship together as fellow Christians.”

The February meeting of the “U.S. Church Leaders” at Asheville, North Carolina, was a special millennial gathering where speakers explored the “Gift of the Holy Spirit.” A prayer, written by meeting participants, asks God to use United States Christians “In preparing Your Kingdom, That Your will be done, On earth as it is in heaven.”

Beach, Inter-Church Relations director for the Adventist Church, has been a Church administrator and religious liberty advocate for over 48 years. He currently also serves as vice president of the International Religious Liberty Association, and is the elected secretary of the Conference of Secretaries of Christian World Communions–an office he has held for the past 29 years. [Bettina Krause]

 Conference calls pope "your holiness"


St. Louis television broadcasts the SDA church calling the pope, "your holiness(!)" then meeting the "man of sin" and presenting him with a gift.

When the pope visited St. Louis in January 1999, he held a Vespers Service where there was an ecumenical gathering.  Representatives of many faiths came together to meet the Pope and welcome him to America.  The Dayton Daily News of January 28, 1999, recorded this event. "The pope continued the theme of unity at his final ceremony Wednesday evening at the Cathedral Basilica of St. Louis, where representatives of many faiths - Judaism, Hinduism, Seventh-day Adventists - joined him in prayer."  This description only touches the tip of the iceberg, friend.  The conference had a representative there, pastor B.T. Rice of the Northside Seventh-day Adventist church, who spoke and made a presentation to the Pope! Before he and other religious leaders spoke, a Catholic representative made the statement, "For many people outside the Catholic community with willingness and graciousness, our brothers and sisters of the ecumenical and inter-religious community, have accepted the invitation to come together this evening with your holiness."  A little later, pastor Rice spoke, "Pope, your Holiness [!].  Your historic visit to St. Louis Missouri has served as a catalyst in the creation of this program [ecumenical program] and it transforms your presence into a lasting legacy for our region.  Today, we present to you, this proclamation, announcing the creation of Faith Beyond Walls, your commitment to improving inter-faith relations has fostered an environment wherein the spirit of collective faith positively action can thrive.  In addition, we also present you with this banner, the emblem of Faith Beyond Walls.  We hope and pray it will inspire inter-faith communities around the world.  To focus their efforts on improving health and the quality of life for all humanity.  Again, we welcome you to our region."  He then approached the pope and shook his hand.  This was covered on television with 2,800 members of the press covering the event and can be seen in the video Victory in St. Louis produced by the ministry Modern Manna.  Modern Manna had 40 volunteers in St. Louis at that time to hand out 100,000 Is Mary Dead or Alive books.  "And soon, after the Holy Spirit had been poured out and their mission completed, an apology would be offered by the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists to the Pope of Rome, '...begging pardon for their [Modern Manna's] bigotry'"  Victory in St. Louis video.  You may order it from Steps to Life by calling 800-the-truth.  This type of incident was prophesied in Revelation 17:13, "These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the Beast." 

Sunday Worship Promoted

In the conference book Changing The World through Prayer, an ADRA prayer Journal, it states, "Prayer: Father, give our pastors boldness to proclaim the gospel onSunday...." (emphasis supplied)

Easter and Sunday Worship Promoted

In 1997, Bert B. Beach was sent as a representative of the conference to meet with ten other churches at a World Council of Churches assembly, where they worked out an agreement for all churches around the world to celebrate Easter on specific SUNDAYS! "The churches need to address the renewal of …the recovery of the meaning of Sunday…" World Council of Churches, Faith and Order, Towards a Common Date for Easter, item 3. Read this internet document: www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/what/faith/easter.html   "World Council of Churches, Faith and Order, Towards a Common Date for Easter." This document was compiled through the WCC which comprise approximately ten "participants," including B. B. Beach and the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. This document promotes Sunday worship! Item 3 says, "Besides the work already done on baptism, Eucharist and ministry, the churches need to address the renewal of preaching, the recovery of the meaning of Sunday and the search for a common celebration of Pascha as ecumenical theological concerns. This last is especially urgent, since an agreement on a common date for Easter—even an interim agreement—awaits further ecumenical developments." [Emphasis supplied]. Item 16, "This consultation also recommendsthat the churches now undertake a period of study and reflection towards the goal of establishing as soon as possible a common date for Easter/Pascha along the lines set forth above. In the year 2001 the paschal calculations now in use by our churches will coincide. Together, Christians will begin a new century, a new millennium, with new opportunities to witness to the resurrection of Christ and to proclaim their joy in his victory over sin, suffering and death. The unity that will be reflected as Christians celebrate Easter/Pascha on the same date will be for many a sign of hope and of witness to the world. This celebration of Easter/Pascha on the same date should not be the exception but the rule." [Emphasis supplied]. Every Historic Seventh-day Adventist should be aware of this paper so they can share it with conference supporters.

Beliefs Changed to Protect Papacy

The original 25 Fundamental Principles published in 1879 by the Seventh-day Adventist church, the man of sin, the papacy is identified in its own fundamental belief. But today, in the conference baptismal book In His Steps, which covers "the principles of faith," AND in the official conference Internet site Adventist.org, the conference omits this important biblical belief in its statement of beliefs.  Friend, this is positive proof that the conference is part of a new organization.

WCC Close Ties

In 1968, the conference became a non-voting member of the World Council of Churches, World Confessional Families. Today the conference will tell you it is not a member, when in fact it is. The World Council of Churches produced the Dictionary of the Ecumenical Movement, 1991. In this book, the conference leader Bert B. Beach tells how the conference is part of the World Council of Churches, "The SDAC [Seventh-day Adventist Church] is regularly represented through observers or advisors at WCC and other church meetings. For many years, a SDA has been a member of the WCC Faith and Order commission in a personal capacity. The SDAC has participated in dialogues with the WCC and various religious bodies and since 1968 has been represented at the conference of secretaries of Christian World Communions. More recently, the SDAC has been represented at the annual conference of US church leaders. Christian World Communions and various churches have responded to the SDA invitation and sent observers to the quin-quennial general conference sessions." p 919

Please go to the WCC web site which lists the members of the Christian World Communions, including the conference: www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/links/church.html

Gift to Pope

The World Confessional Families met in Rome, with B. B. Beach the secretary of the Northern Europe-West Africa Division representing the conference, where he met with the Pope in a private ceremony. Why is the conference a member of the WCF?  Beach presented the Pope with a conference-issued gold medal. There are several unusual features on it.   The 8-11-77 Review said it was a "symbol of the Seventh-day Adventist church." Today, the conference is not ashamed of its presentation to the papacy, and is defending the gold medal presentation via a detailed description of the meeting.  "It was felt that it was of interest to meet with the man who is the religious leader of some 700 million people....[Beach] gave him one of the medallions that...are given from time to time to statesmen...."

There are several items on this gold medal which are designed to please the pope.  1.  Christ is in a Catholic stance, like the Vatican painting by Francis de Assisi, and idols.  2.  He is standing on earth like Satan will when personating Christ.  3. There is a cloud with lightning bolts extending from it, just as mystery religions and the medieval papacy used.  It was a symbol of Satan in the mysteries.  4.  There are eight angels.  Eight is the symbol of the sun day.  5.  The Maltese cross is a Vatican symbol.  6.  THE FOURTH COMMANDMENT IS CHANGED TO READ THE SAME WAY  THE PAPACY ATTEMPTED TO CHANGE IT! 

"When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near."  --5T 451 (1885)

Mark Finley in the Net 95 and Net 96 evangelistic series, said the number 666 represents a human system of religion. The number three equals the Trinity. The number seven is perfection or completeness. The number six is imperfection, and a basis of Babylonian calculation. The number 666 represents the triumphant of error, a triple union of error, a union of the dragon beast and false prophet, a religion of man, not God.  Pastor Finley never associated the papacy with this number. 

In the November, 1994, "Adventist Review" a supplement titled "The Saints Victory in the End Time" states, "Any explanation of the cryptic number will have to be tentative." Our historic Adventist view of the number 666 tied to the inscription on the papal tiara is termed "flimsy". They believe the number is "The code for the name of the sea monster, which is blasphemy."  In the same article, they doubt apostate Protestantism in the United States will become the image to the beast.

The pope's title on his tiara headdress basically says he is god on earth, and the numerical value of the letters add up to 666 in Greek, Hebrew and Latin. The Bible and Spirit of Prophecy both indicate 666 represents the pope:  "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" Rev. 13:18.  "I saw that the number (666) of the Image Beast was made up; [Rev. 13:18] and that it was the Beast that changed the Sabbath, and the Image Beast had followed on after, and kept the Pope's, and not God's Sabbath." WLF 19

Dick Duerksen, director of creative ministries in the Columbia Union, was mocking those who were saying, "The pope's stand on abortion, his book lifting up the gift of God's grace, his words praising family values and all his travels are but a smokescreen behind which he is building a world-wide power base. He will be taking control of the world any day."  Columbia Union Visitor

In the announcement of a new "Signs of the Times", the new editor, Marvin Moore, appears to be saying that the beast will not be identified: "These articles will avoid attacking people and churches that disagree with us, including the Catholics. We win by drawing, not by pushing people away....Signs keeps the three angel's messages front and center, but speaks the language of the 1990's, not the 1890's." Mr. Moore, like the conference, termed the identification of Babylon and the beast as "attacking". 

Notice these statements in the conference publication Review, May 2, 1991, Roy Adams "The Eucharist, turning the communion bread into the literal body of Christ, fits into the circle of the three angels' messages."  Review, September 19, 1993, Miriam Widmer "We praised the pope for sounding like an Adventist or protestant preacher, and suggested God was using this pope to bring the gospel to the Catholics."

At the 1990, General Conference Session in Indianapolis, a Catholic priest spoke and prayed from the pulpit. The conference communications director told a local newspaper that we no longer believe what we did a hundred years ago concerning comments in the Great Controversy about the papacy. A condensation of "The Great Controversy" was handed out in Indianapolis. "Shirley Burton, a spokesperson for the denomination, told the Indianapolis Star Daily newspaper the tract was 'trash.'...The main body of the Church has moved away from an anti-Catholic position. The new position of co-operation with the Catholic Church was exemplified by the invitation from the Seventh-day Adventists to the Vatican to send an official observer to the conference." Arkansas Catholic 7-29-90. The following are further comments found inThe Indianapolis Star, July 14, 1990, "Though Adventist officials conceded the history of the denomination has an anti-Catholic bent, they said the modern church is trying to move from that stance. 'They (the dissidents) want us to be like we were 100 years ago.' said Herbert Ford, news director for the 6.2 million-member church. 'But, the church has to move not away from the eternal principles of God, but things do have to change. 'These people are a thorn in the flesh, but the church tolerates them. United States in Prophecy [Great Controversy] which was sponsored by Adventist Layworkers Affiliate of Tennessee, calls Catholicism a pagan religion and refers to the pope as a beast. Adventists who want to cling to the church's historic anti-Catholic beliefs represent only about 1,000 in the North American division of 750,000 members, Ford said."

The Vice President of the Conference, Neal C. Wilson, verbalized the conference position regarding the papacy, "Although it is true that there was a period in the life of the Seventh-day Adventist Church when the denomination took a distinctly anti-Roman Catholic viewpoint...that attitude on the church's part was nothing more than a manifestation of widespread anti-popery among conservative Protestant denominations in the early part of this century, and the latter part of the last, which has now been consigned to the historical trash heap as far as the Seventh-day Adventist Church is concerned." Merikay McLeod lawsuit, Docket entry #84: EEOC vs PPPA, c-74-2025-CBR. Feb. 6, 1976

The Ignored Prophet, Ellen White Speaks:

"The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformationwas to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A new organization would be established. Books of a new order would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure." Series B No. 2 54,55, or 1 SM 204, 205

"The sin of ancient Israel was in disregarding the expressed will of God and following their own way according to the leadings of unsanctified hearts. Modern Israel are fast following in their footsteps, and the displeasure of the Lord is as surely resting upon them." 5T 94

"If when the Lord reveals your errors you do not repent or make confession, His providence will bring you over the ground again and again. You will be left to make mistakes of a similar character, you will continue to lack wisdom, and will call sin righteousness. The multitude of deceptions that will prevail in these last days will encircle you, and you will change leaders, and not know that you have done so." RH12/6/90

"We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylonof allowing our churches to become corrupted, and filled with every foul spirit, a cage for every unclean and hateful bird....I tell you the truth, Elder Butler, that unless there is a cleansing of the soul temple on the part of many who claim to believe and to preach the truth, God's judgments, long deferred, will come." Letter 51, 1886.

"We are not to spend our time in controversy with those who know the truth, and upon whom the light of truth has been shining, when they turn away their ear from the truth to turn to fables. I was told that men will employ every policy to make less prominent the differences between the faith of Seventh-day Adventists and those who observe the first day of the week. In this controversy the whole world will be engaged, and the time is short. This is no time to haul down our colors.  A company was presented before me under the name of Seventh-day Adventists, who were advising that the banner or sign which makes us a distinctive people should not be held out so strikingly, for they claimed it was not the best policy in securing success to our institutions....I saw some reaching out their hands toremove the banner, and obscure its significance." 2SM 385 

"Study the 9th chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally fulfilled; yet the time is passing and the people are sleep. They refuse to humble their souls and to be converted. Not a great while longer will the Lord bear with the people who have such great and important truths revealed to them, but who refuse to bring these truths into their individual experience. The time is short. God is calling; will you hear?" Letter 106, 1909

[Some Adventists believe the conference will repent eventually, so we should continue to support their apostasy until that happens. If the conference is to repent, then why does the Bible say in Ezekiel 9 there will be a slaughter of the leaders and laity where almost every Adventist will soon be killed by God's destroying angel after the close of probation? The slaughter is brought about because of the abominations of Israel or Adventists as noted in Ezekiel chapter eight. Mrs. White tells us the slaughter of Ezekiel chapter nine will be a literal slaughter of professed Adventists. Ezekiel sees the slaughter beginning with the leadership, and he frightfully watches the destruction and asks the destroying angel if all Israel or Adventists will be killed.]

"The world must not be introduced into the church, and married to the church, forming a bond of unity. Through this means the church will become indeed corrupt, and as stated in Revelation, 'a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.'  Through association with the world our institutions will become unsubstantial, unreliable; because these worldly elements, introduced and placed in positions of trust, are looked up to as teachers to be respected in their educating, directing, and official position, and they are sure to be worked upon by the spirit and power of darkness; so that the demarcation becomes not distinguished between him that serveth God and him that serveth Him not.  In the balances of the sanctuary the Seventh-day Adventist church is to be weighed. She will be judged by the privileges and advantages that she has had. If her spiritual experience does not correspond to the advantages that Christ, at infinite cost, has bestowed on her, If the blessings conferred have not qualified her to do the work entrusted to her, on her will be pronounced the sentence: 'found wanting.' By the light bestowed, the opportunities given, will she be judged." 8T 247

1901 "It is working upon wrong principles that has brought the cause of God into its present embarrassment. The people have lost confidence in those who have the management of the work. Yet we hear that the voice of the Conference is the Voice of God. Every time I have heard this, I have thought that it was almostblasphemy....We have reached the time when the work cannot advance while wrong principles are cherished." Man. 37, 1901

The Seventh-Day Adventist Church is following the same footsteps as the Jews did when Jesus came to free us from our sins. They know all the Truth yet don't practice it. They have all this Light, but don't spread it. They are lukewarm and fallen into apostasy. They have become one with Babylon.I never heard of Ellen White or the Seventh-Day Adventist till I was 25 and into the occult. Wake up Adventists, the Church has been infiltrated and the Word needs to be spread to the whole world. So many people are begging for the Truth.

"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self-created screen. It seizes in its long and power(ful) tentacles our executive officers, our legislative bodies, our schools, our courts, our newspapers, and every agency created for the public protection."... At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as the international bankers [who] virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes." Mayor John Hylan, New York Times, 1922

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." --David Spangler, Director of PLANETARY INITIATIVE, (a United Nations World government group)

If you don't know any of the following terms, copy 'em to a file or something and then look 'em up. Please add more pieces to the puzzle, if you have them! (edited to include the suggestions of the posters)

Illuminati
Freemasons (or Freemasonry)
The Anti-Masonic Party (yes, this was a political party in the 1800's)
Skull and Bones
Rosicrucians
Bohemian Grove
Knights Templar
Knights of Malta
Knights of Columbus
Knights of St. John
Knights Hospitaliers
Order of the Eastern Star
Order of the Garter
Order of the Golden Dawn
Order of the Golden Circle
Ordo Templi Orientis
Order of Demolay
Oddfellows
Rainbow Girls
Job's Daughters
Brotherhood of the Snake
Thule Society
Theosophy Society
Thelema
Ismailis
Assassins
Ancient Arabic Order, Nobles of the Mystic Shrine
Merovingian Bloodline
Black Nobility
Venetian Oligarchy
Mafia
Triads
Jacobins
Jesuits
Inquisition
Opus Dei
B'nai Brith
Priory of Sion (Zion)
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion
Zionism
Kabbalah
Khazars
Talmud
Goyim
Kenites
Edomites
Pharisees
Temple of Solomon
Seal of Solomon, (Hexagram; this is NOT the Star of David)
Mark of the Beast
RFID Chips
Real ID
Book of Revelation
Book of Daniel
Book of Enoch
Watchers
Nephilhim
Dead Sea Scrolls
Egregore or Grigori (this is a weiiiird one)
New Age
Mystery Babylon
Wicca
Druidism
Sufism
Bahai
Scientology
Mormonism
Joseph Smith
Eliphas Levi
Gerald Gardner
Adam Weishaupt
Aleister Crowley, (GWB's grandfather??)
Albert Pike (predicted 3 world wars)
Manly P. Hall
Madame Blavatsky
Alice Bailey
Luci's Trust at the United Nations (or Lucifer's Trust)
Council on Foreign Relations
Council for National Policy
Committee of 300
Trilateral Commission
Bilderberg
Georgia Guidestones
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"Regarding the testimonies, nothing is ignored; nothing is cast aside; but time and place must be considered." 1 Selected Messages, p. 57.

Mrs. White did not always say that the church should not be called Babylon. Before 1891, statements made about the church organization were mostly favorable, however, from 1891 and on, statements regarding how the church was being operated were mostly unfavorable.

When the church adopts the most important doctrine, the central doctrine of Babylon, (Catholicism=foundation is the Trinity/Tritheism=Early creeds and traditions of the Catholic Church teach that God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost as three "manifestations" of the same being), what do you think should be said about that? Mrs. White called it the Omega of Apostasy, because she was shown the direction that the church would take. That is why she said "I trembled for our people." 1 Selected Messages, p. 203.2.

"The Jews worshiped the temple and were filled with greater indignation at anything spoken against that building than if it had been spoken against God." Early Writings, p. 198.

The Seventh-day Adventists worship the church (organization) and are filled with greater indignation at anything spoken against the church organization than if it had been spoken against God.

This is why truth is not received by most members of the church. Because the church organization is more valuable to them than the truths which God originally gave to the church. This is a very sad state of the church!

"The prevailing spirit of our time is that of infidelity and apostasy - a spirit of pretended illumination because of a knowledge of the truth, but in reality of the blindest presumption. There is a spirit of opposition to the plain word of God and to the testimony of His Spirit. There is a spirit of idolatrous exaltation of mere human reason above the revealed wisdom of God. There are men among us in responsible positions who hold that the opinions of a few conceited philosophers, so called, are more to be trusted than the truth of the Bible, or the testimonies of the Holy Spirit." 5 Testimonies, p. 79.

"The truth that God has given for His people in these last days should keep them firm when there come into the church those who present false theories. The truth that has stood firm against the attacks of the enemy for more than half a century must still be the confidence and comfort of God's people." 9 Testimonies, pp. 69, 70.

"... the enemy will seek to seduce souls from the truth, but all who believe that the Lord has spoken through Sister White, and has given her a message, will be safe from the many delusions that will come in these last days." 3 Selected Messages, p. 84, Letter 50, 1906.

The Church Triumphant Will Be Faithful and Christlike

The work is soon to close. The members of the church militant who have proved faithful will become the church triumphant.--Ev 707 (1892).

The life of Christ was a life charged with a divine message of the love of God, and He longed intensely to impart this love to others in rich measure. Compassion beamed from His countenance, and His conduct was characterized by grace, humility, truth, and love. Every member of His church militant must manifest the same qualities, if he would join the church triumphant.--FE 179 (1891)


Why Ellen White did not Leave the SDA Church

One criticism of my teachings is that, according to my theses, Ellen White should have left the church in her day! Especially when the church stepped upon another platform of organization shortly after the General Conference Session of 1901, to re-instate a President. Ellen White approved the findings of the minority Committee that concluded the church should not have a president. Why? Because a president founds the church on the same basis as a hierarchy, as does Rome, and puts man in the position only God should fill. If man is the leader of the church, then God is displaced. To say that Ellen White should have left at that time (circa 1901-1903) is not correct for the following reasons:

1. Israel wanted a King, and God permitted it though He did not agree with it. That kingly power was a powerful force in contributing to Israel's downfall to apostasy.

2. Ellen White portrayed a correct response toward such apostasy in The Great Controversy, p. 45. Here is her statement:

"After a long and severe conflict, the faithful few decided to dissolve all union with the apostate church if she still refused to free herself from falsehood and idolatry. They saw that separation was an absolute necessity if they would obey the word of God. They dared not tolerate errors fatal to their own souls, and set an example which would imperil the faith of their children and children's children. To secure peace and unity they were ready to make any concession consistent with fidelity to God; but they felt that even peace would be too dearly purchased at the sacrifice of principle. If unity could be secured only by the compromise of truth and righteousness, then let there be difference, and even war." The Great Controversy, p. 45.

Notice the qualifying words: "After a long and severe conflict." God sometimes permits such a long, protracted process of time to prove His point. Look at the six-thousand year experiment into sin. God has permitted the error of sin to endure to prove His point. Some maintain that God never uses error to establish truth, but that is a gross error. God has used the error of sin to prove to all the Universe the evils of sin. God covered over the error of when Christ would return in 1844. Ellen White says to! God does not need to do anything, but He obviously chose to prove the efficacy of His government by demonstrating the results of disobeying His principles.

However, God does not always permit a protracted period of time after certain apostasies occur. For example, the Korah, Dathan and Abiram rebellion was nipped in the bud mighty quickly! The apostasy of the golden calf was dealt with speedily! What about the apostasy in 1844, when the churches spurned the first and second angel's messages? Why they were accounted of God as fallen in the very summer of 1844! Notice:

"When the CHURCHES spurned the counsel of God by rejecting the Advent message, the Lord rejected them. The first angel was followed by a second, proclaiming, 'Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication' [Rev. 14:8]. This message was understood by Adventists to be an announcement of the moral fall of the churches in consequence of their rejection of the first message. The proclamation, 'Babylon is fallen,' was given in the summer of 1844, and as the result, ABOUT FIFTY THOUSAND WITHDREW FROM THESE CHURCHES." E.G. White, The Spirit of Prophecy, (1884 Great Controversy) vol. 4, p. 232.

"As the churches refused o receive the first angel's message, they rejected the light from heaven and fell from the favor of God. They trusted to their own strength, and by opposing the first message placed themselves where they could not see the light of the second angel's message. But the beloved of God, who were oppressed, accepted the message, 'Babylon is fallen,' and LEFT THE CHURCHES." Early Writings, p. 237.

'It was to separate the church of Christ from the corrupting influence of the world that the first angel's message was given. But with the multitude, even of professed Christians, the ties which bound them to earth were stronger than the attractions heavenward. They chose to listen to the voice of worldly wisdom and turned away from the heart-searching message of truth...When the churches spurned the counsel of God by rejecting the advent message, the Lord rejected them. The first angel was followed by a second...This message was understood by Adventist to be an announcement of the moral fall of the churches in consequence of their rejection of the FIRST MESSAGE." E.G. White, Story of Redemption, p. 364.

So we can see that God does NOT always give a protracted period of time for His people to confess and repent of their apostasy! So how do we know when to act speedily in response to apostasy and when to allow God time to work for repentance? God has given some very clear examples in Scripture and in history. For example, in Jeremiah 11:9-15, there is a list of items that are so serious that in the event of violation of these principles, we are admonished not to even pray for a corporate people. This would imply unpardonable sin.
For another example, Ellen White states that in every generation since Christ, true reformers have left the ecclesiastical churches of their day because the truth they proffered to those churches was spurned and rejected by the leaders of those churches. You may find this principle corroborated in Desire of Ages, p. 232. This same principle was instituted in 1844, when in one summer about 50,000 were called out of the apostate churches because those churches spurned truth; the first and second angel's messages, and the Midnight Cry. There is a most important lesson in these examples, and that lesson is that when Everlasting Gospel truth is spurned, a ready response to apostasy is warranted and absolutely necessary.

An example of how professing Seventh-day Adventists have spurned Everlasting Gospel truth by violation of the first and second angel's messages and the Midnight Cry, is their imbibing of ecumenical linkage with Babylon via ecumenical involvement. Another example wherein they have violated the same principle is by their business partnership with the Catholics involving their hospital in Colorado. Ellen White said that we are never to engage business partnership with unbelievers:

"The Lord is testing His people to see who will be loyal to the principles of His truth...To bind ourselves up by contracts with those not of our faith is not in the order of God. We are to treat with kindness and courtesy those who refuse to be loyal to God, but we are never, never to unite with them in counsel regarding the vital interests of His work." Testimonies, vol. 7, 107-108.

The principles of the above statement apply very specifically to New Movement Adventism's Denver Porter Hospital, in regard to its December 16, 1995 "partnership" merger with the Roman Catholic Church--owned Sisters of Charity Health Services Hospital System.

"I saw that Sabbath-keepers should not be in PARTNERSHIP with UNBELIEVERS. God's people trust too much to the words of strangers, ask their advice and counsel, when they should not. The enemy makes them his agents, and works through them to perplex and take from (rob) God's people." E.G. White, Spiritual Gifts, Volume 4B, p. 41.

Here "Sabbath-keepers" are distinguished from unbelievers, or those who do not keep the Sabbath.

"Porter Care Adventist Health System of Metro Denver recently entered into a strategic agreement with Sisters of Charity Healthcare Corporation to form Centura Health, a JOINT OPERATING COMPANY.... 
Since this PARTNERSHIP gives us the opportunity to perpetuate and expand our mission, we believe that Ellen White would want us to grasp this opportunity for ministry." Charles Sandefur, President, Mid-American Union of Seventh-day Adventists, Letter to Colorado pastors, February 13, 1996."

We already know what Ellen White said about such PARTNERSHIP with unbelievers! Our leaders could and should know what she said! Such PARTNERSHIP with Babylon, is a direct violation of the Everlasting Gospel of Revelation 14. This act alone demands separation, because it involves violation of the Everlasting Gospel. Every MEMBER of the corporate Seventh-day Adventist Church is corporately responsibility for this betrayal of sacred trust involving the Everlasting Gospel to come out and be a holy, separate and peculiar people.

"I SAW that God was displeased with His people for becoming surety for UNBELIEVERS. I was directed to these texts: Proverbs 22:26: 'Be not thou one of them that strike hands, or of them that are sureties for debts." Proverbs 11:15: 'He that is surety for a stranger shall smart for it: and he that hateth suretyship is sure.' Unfaithful stewards! They pledge that which belongs to another,--their heavenly Father,--and Satan stands ready to aid his children to wrench it [ROB IT] OUT OF THEIR HANDS. Sabbathkeepers SHOULD NOT BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH UNBELIEVERS. God's people trust too much to the words of strangers, and ask their advice and counsel when they should not. The enemy makes them HIS AGENTS, and works THROUGH THEM to perplex and take from [rob] God's people." Testimonies, vol. 1, p. 200.

"Among our people generally in these kingdoms, the Sabbath has not stood in the exalted position where God has placed it. The world is the instrument that sifts the church, and tests the genuineness of its members. The world holds out inducements, that, when accepted, place the believer where his life is not in harmony with his profession. Some of our brethren engaged in business have not kept the Sabbath according to the commandment. Some have been in PARTNERSHIP WITH UNBELIEVERS, and the influence of these Sabbath-breaking associates has had its effect upon them. Some have been so blinded that they could not discern the danger in such connections, but it is only the greater because unperceived. While one partner is professedly observing the Sabbath, the other, with the laborers employed, is carrying on the business of the firm. The Sabbath-keeper, though not outwardly engaged in labor, cannot keep his thought from business matters. While he may endeavor to keep the Sabbath, he does not keep it. The Lord looks upon him as a transgressor." E.G. White, Historical Sketches of the Foreign Missions of the Seventh-day Adventists, p. 215.

So partnership with unbelievers is just another way the professing New Movement SDA church is not keeping the commandments of God. Then they take 1893 quotes by Ellen White to prove that they are not Babylon, but the Commandment-keeping people of God! What a lie! What a sham! God is weeping!

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" II Corinthians 6:14.

"We are to do all that we can to enlighten those in ignorance; but we are NEVER TO CONFEDERATE WITH MEN OF THE WORLD in order to receive financial assistance." Testimonies, vol. 9, 233.

Why the Porter Hospital merger with Catholics? Because of financial assistance reasons! A direct violation of the counsel of God to the church concerning ecumenical connection. All who KNOWINGLY so do are "broken in pieces," Isaiah 8:9-20. All who so do step off the Midnight Cry lighted path, and it is IMPOSSIBLE TO GET BACK ON THE PATH AGAIN. Impossibility to get back on the path again connotes nothing more nor less than UNPARDONABLE SIN! E.G. White, Word to the Little Flock, p. 14.

"We are to enter into no confederacy with those who do not 'love or fear God.' Those who have not the light of present truth, who are unable to endure the seeing of Him who is invisible, are surrounded all in dreariness. They know not the meaning of joy in the Lord. They take no interest in eternal realities. Their attention is engrossed by the trifling things of earth. They make haste unto vanity, striving by unfair means to obtain advantages. Having forsaken God, the fountain of living waters, they hew out for themselves broken cisterns, that can hold no water.' E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 6, 437, col. 2.

PASTORS AND TEACHERS--CEASE TO DEPEND UPON.--"The flock of God s in need of help from Heaven, and the sheep and lambs are perishing for food. But those who would have a deep and living experience in the things of God, cease to depend upon men, even their pastors and teachers, and put their trust wholly upon God using their God-given ability to His glory." E.G. White, Letter to Elder Olsen, September 1, 1892. The test of whether or not one loves and fears God, is found in 1 John 5:2. The professing Seventh-day Adventist New Movement-Organization does not believe that it is possible to perfectly fulfill this test. Therefore, we are to enter into no confederacy (union--membership) with them. Notice:

"Shall we unite ourselves with those that are full of error, who have no respect for God's commandments, and shall our students go forth to obtain the finishing touches of their education from them?
Whatever plan you follow, take your position that you will not unite [JOIN] with those that do not respect God's commandments." E.G. White, Loma Linda Messages, p. 15.

"If all would be obedient to the law of God, he would not be obliged to give up his former associates; but where one alone, or a very few at most, take a position on the side of right, A SEPARATION BECOMES NECESSARY." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol. 1, p. 497, col. 2.

"I saw that decided efforts should be made to show those who are unchristian in life their wrongs, and if they do not reform, they should be separated from the precious and holy, that God may have a clean and pure people that He can delight in. Dishonor Him not by linking or uniting the clean with the unclean." Testimonies, vol. 1, 117, 118.

"I was shown the necessity of those who believe that we are having the last message of mercy, being SEPARATE from those who are daily imbibing new errors. I saw that neither young nor old should attend their meetings; for it is wrong to thus encourage them while they teach error that is a deadly poison to the soul and teach for doctrines the commandments of men." E.G. White, Early Writings, p. 124, 125.

"As a people professing to be REFORMERS, treasuring the most solemn, purifying truths of god's word, we must elevate the standard far higher than it is at the present time. Sin and sinners in the church must be promptly dealt with that others may not be contaminated. Truth and purity require that we make more thorough work to cleanse the camp of Achans. Let those in responsible positions not suffer sin in a brother. Show him that he must either put away his sin or be SEPARATED from the church," Testimonies, vol. 5, 147.

Those who know the truth are to be worked by the Holy Spirit, and not themselves to try to work the Spirit. If the cords are drawn much tighter, if the rules are made much finer, if men continue to bind their fellow-laborers closer and closer to the commandments of men, MANY WILL BE STIRRED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO BREAK EVERY SHACKLE, AND ASSERT THEIR LIBERTY IN CHRIST JESUS." E.G. White, Review and Herald, vol, 3, p. 275.

"We are to unify, but not on a platform of error." E.G. White, Special Testimonies, Series B, #2, p. 47.

The church in Ellen White's day had not committed the Omega of Apostasy by forming a NEW MOVEMENT ORGANIZATION "among" within the church that has now "removed God," Selected Messages, vol. 1, 204-5.

The church had not formed an ecumenical liaison with Babylon's associations, counsels, girdings and confederacies, Isa. 8:9-20. We have proven in other sections of this WebSite that the professing SDA church is now so linked. Ellen White gave clear instruction in case such an eventuality should ensue:

"They that forsake the law praise the wicked.' Proverbs 28:4. When those who are uniting with the world, yet claimin great purity, plead for union with those who have ever been the opposers of the cause of truth, we should fear and shun them as decidedly as did Nehemiah. Such counsel is prompted b the enemy of all good. It is the speech of timeservers, and should be resisted as resolutely today as them. Whatever influence would tend to unsettle the faith of god's people in His guiding power, should be steadfastly withstood." E.G. White, Prophets and Kings, p. 661.

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